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Did Kevin Smith Beget Judd Apatow? He's Seems to Think So!

Did Kevin Smith Beget Judd Apatow? He's Seems to Think So!
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As part of the New York Post's Sunday Fall Movie Preview, there was an interview with Kevin Smith about his upcoming film, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, starring the ubiquitous Seth Rogen and the soon-to-be ubiquitous Elizabeth Banks (she's also appearing this fall in the David Wain comedy Role Models, and, of course, she's Laura Bush in Oliver Stone's W.) Smith talked about the usual things: his wardrobe ("hoodie sweat shirts, basketball jerseys"), his hobbies (poker, comic books) and his family. It was all well and good--fluffy, and just about what you'd expect.

But one comment stood out as so completely obtuse and ridiculous, that it caused us to stop eating our morning breakfast mid-chew. On the "Judd Apatow comedy revolution," Smith said the following:

I'm glad there's a Judd Apatow, because for years, we were making very dirty, but very sweet movies that found a glass ceiling of 30-million bucks tops. For years, people said it wasn't viable to combine a rom-com and a raunchy comedy. And then "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" and "Superbad" and now "Pineapple Express" proved that the genre film that we've been working in since 1994 is financially viable. That's a cool thing for me.

Let's put aside for a second that Kevin Smith has never made one movie as good as 40-Year-Old Virgin, Knocked Up or even the Apatow-produced Forgetting Sarah Marshall. And let's ignore that successful R-rated romantic comedies existed long before 2005's 40-Year-Old Virgin struck box office gold (There's Something About Mary, anyone?) What really upset us was this idea that Smith wants to purport-that he's the Howard Stern of R-rated rom-com's. He "invented" them.

When you think of romantic comedies with a little raunch, is Smith who you think of? With the exception of Chasing Amy, none of his R-rated movies have had anything near the pathos or sweetness of what Judd Apatow has put his name on in the last three years. Smith's movies were always shock fests: snowball jokes, donkey shows and giant crap monsters. What they weren't werelittle love notes to Woody Allen, Albert Brooks and the Farrrelly Brothers, like so many of the Apatow flicks seem to be.

Hey Mr. Smith: if you want to rip-off Judd Apatow on his road to box office mediocrity, be our guest. Just don't try to play it off like you've been doing this routine for ages.

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Anonymous (not verified) says:

Read the quote. "...ceiling of 30 million bucks..." [italics]Mary's[/italics] budget was $23 mil. Hating is fine just do it properly.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

would a rosen by any other name still stop mid-chew to stop participating in divide+set against eachother comedy kingdoms? thanks. Smith is an original, Smith inspired Rogen, comparing Chasing Amy with Pineapple Express is absurd. Jersey Girl was Gigli'd and I fully expect Zack & Miro to be Virgin-clobbered. Oh no! The same actors! Let's coin the phrase Apatovian and trash Kevin, and when we get tired of Apatow, Rogen & Banks, we'll trash them, and trashing and contempt for creative comedic genius is how we make the sheckels to buy our breakfast.

as Carlin proved. Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. Kudos to all who can made us jaded cynics laugh in a most serious time. And stop setting people against eachother. Just makes you look small. and nasty.

Amber (not verified) says:

holy reading into something too much, batman! last time i checked, kevin smith *did* make those flicks before Apatow, and they *were* always underapreciated. I found Apatow's Virgin mediocre and mind-numbing slow at best, and Knocked Up was very IRL but was obtrusively obtuse and rauchy just to prove that it could be done. Smith wasn't pouring on the hate -- you are for the sake of a controversial blog entry.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

yea, kevin smith has always been horribly overrated. judd's films are on a whole other level.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Don't forget that Apatow himself spoke of Smith as his inspiration at ComicCon a month ago...with Smith sitting there right next to him on the panel...

Anonymous (not verified) says:

"When you think of romantic comedies with a little raunch, is Smith who you think of?"

Yes. Yes it is.

Maybe Apatow moved more toward the romance and less toward the raunch. But all that did was make them more box-office friendly. He's still walking in Kevin Smith's shoes. And he knows it.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

"When you think of romantic comedies with a little raunch, is Smith who you think of?"

Yes yes i do

I like Judd Apatow but with that said his films feel like a toned down version of Smith's work, hell to say Smith has never made a good film is complete horse shit

long before that raunchy yet heart filled The 40 Year Old Virgin or Knocked Up there was Chasing Amy, a very raunchy yet very touching love story. So fuck these people who wrote this stupid column. Judd didn't create this type of film, Kevin was doing this years before Judd

Anonymous (not verified) says:

You can't compare with the Farrelly brothers, the Farrelly brothers have never once made a sex comedy, hell they were more shocking then anything Kevin has thrown up onto the screen. May i mention the infamous zipper scene, or the infamous cum in the hair scene. That was more downright pure lets shock the audience for a laugh than anything Kevin has thrown on to the screen

To say Chasing Amy was the only one with hear is yet another garbage statement, Clerks II had a very sweet heart and sentimental side to it, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back even had a little heart to it

Your arguements are flawed in this column simple as that, Judd didn't create this, the Farrelly weren't even in the same league comedy wise

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