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Popular-Vote Math Made Easy

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With Hillary Clinton renewing her declaration of a popular-vote lead in the Democratic nomination contest, it’s worth checking in on the actual math. Deriving an exact popular-vote count is tricky, since there are several ways of computing it. Here’s a step-by-step look at how the various tallies are reached.

The Baseline

If you count all of the states and U.S. possessions that have held officially sanctioned primaries or caucuses in which exact popular-vote tallies were maintained, the current tally (with a scattering of votes in Oregon yet to be added) is:

Obama: 16,577,001

Clinton: 16,161,025

Difference: Obama +415,976

Baseline + Florida

A case can be made that the results from Florida’s nonsanctioned January primary ought to be counted as well. Even though the candidates didn’t campaign in the state and overall turnout was much lower than in other states, the final result—a 17-point Clinton win over Obama (with John Edwards at 14 percent)—is consistent with polls taken before and after the primary. If you add the Florida numbers (and not Michigan, where the circumstances were different) to the baseline, then the current popular-vote total stands at:

Obama: 17,153,214

Clinton: 17,032,011

Difference: Obama +121,204

Baseline + Florida and Michigan (without uncommitted)

This is the formula that Clinton uses to claim a popular-vote lead. The case to include Michigan’s primary numbers in a popular-vote tally is weaker and more complicated than the case for Florida. Not only was turnout even lower in Michigan than Florida, Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot. In the January primary, Clinton “won” by 15 points over an uncommitted slate that many Obama supporters voted for. However, polls before and after the primary showed Obama—had he been on the ballot—would have run roughly even with Clinton. The Clinton campaign, in its math, credits Clinton with all of the votes she won in Michigan, and Obama with zero, giving him no credit for his support in the state. If we accept this formula and add Michigan to the mix, Clinton passes Obama in the overall popular vote:

Obama: 17,153,215

Clinton: 17,360,320

Difference: Clinton +207,105

Baseline + Florida and Michigan (with uncommitted)

If the Obama campaign does concede Michigan, it will no doubt be on the condition that their candidate at least receive credit for the votes that “uncommitted” won in the state. Almost all of them were meant for him anyway (since his name wasn’t on the ballot), and it’s almost certainly a conservative expression of his support, since polls before and after the primary showed him running even with Clinton—not losing to her by 15, as “uncommitted” did. Moreover, the Obama forces would say, it’s unfair to punish Obama for removing his name from the ballot, when most of the other candidates did so as well in an effort to honor the D.N.C.’s boycott request. If you count Michigan and give the 238,168 uncommitted votes to Obama, he regains the cumulative popular vote lead:

Obama: 17,391,383

Clinton: 17,360,320

Difference: Obama +31,063

The Four Caucuses

And here’s the real wild card: Four states—Washington, Iowa, Maine and Nevada—held caucuses in which formal popular-vote tallies were not maintained. No one disputes, however, that hundreds of thousands of Democrats participated in these caucuses. Media outlets have estimated the popular vote in these states in different ways. Some have relied on exit poll figures and some have only counted the state convention delegates won by each candidate (tiny numbers compared to overall turnout). But the most widely accepted formula involves simply applying each candidate’s delegate share (i.e., the percentage that gets reported in the media) to each state party’s overall turnout figure. So in Maine, for instance, Obama would be credited with 59 percent of the 44,000 overall votes that the state party estimated were cast.

These numbers are inexact, but probably not by much. The volatility in caucus results, generally speaking, is due to large fields of candidates in which many voters switch their allegiance on a second ballot. But because three of these caucuses—Iowa is the exception—were basically two-way contests between Clinton and Obama, there really wasn’t much second ballot movement in them.

Using the above-described formula, here are the popular-vote estimates from Washington, Maine, Nevada and Iowa:

Obama: 334,084

Clinton: 223,862

Difference: Obama +110,222

Now, the question is how to apply this data to the overall vote count. The Clinton campaign, obviously, would argue that inexact vote estimates do not belong in any popular-vote tally. Of course, they’d argue the exact opposite if these numbers worked in their favor. Conversely, the Obama campaign would contend that these caucus numbers are actually more worthy of inclusion than Florida and Michigan, since the four caucuses were all officially sanctioned contests where the candidates all had the opportunity to campaign and spend money.

Here is how Obama’s 110,222-vote plurality from the four caucuses would, if included, affect the overall margins under the four different standards described above:

Baseline: Obama +526,193

Baseline + Florida: Obama +231,426

Baseline + Florida and Michigan (without uncommitted): Clinton +96,883

Baseline + Florida and Michigan (with uncommitted): Obama + 141,285

The Remaining Primaries

The final wrinkle is what will happen in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota.

Obama should win South Dakota and Montana handily, resulting in a net gain of somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 votes.

Clinton should win Puerto Rico decisively and supporters have been talking up the possibility of very high turnout in that commonwealth—perhaps 1,000,000 voters. However, a more reasonable turnout estimate is probably around 600,000, a figure provided by Puerto Rican election expert Manuel Alvarez-Rivera, who advises that U.S. presidential politics do not stir the passions of islanders nearly to the degree that their own politics do. Also, last Saturday’s El Nuevo Dia reported that the number of polling stations for the June 1 primary had been slashed due to low turnout estimates and a lack of volunteer poll workers. A 20-point Clinton win with a turnout of 600,000 would produce for her a plurality of 120,000 votes.

Roughly speaking, then, Clinton is likely to post a net gain of around 50,000-75,000 votes in the final three contests. This is just an estimate, obviously—high turnout in Puerto Rico could swell her number substantially, just as Obama could eat into it if he fares better in Puerto Rico than conventional assumptions say he will.

The bottom line is that if Clinton picks up a net gain of 75,000 votes in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota, she will be able to claim a popular-vote lead over Obama, but only under two narrow standards: counting Michigan, and giving the uncommitted votes to Obama, but not counting the four caucus states; or counting the four caucus states, but without giving the uncommitted vote from Michigan.

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Great work, but in a way, it misses the point. Her rationale for staying in the race has changed almost as many times as Bush and company's reasons for invading Iraq. Howard Wolfson, to mix metaphors for a moment, is starting to sound like the Iraqi information minister.

Analyzing the Hill-Billy's arguments is to engage in "fact-based" politics as opposed to the "what we say is true" politics, the kind perfected by the Bush and Clinton teams. June 3 was supposed to be the very last deadline, now it may be the convention, or hell, maybe she'll campaign "beyond the primary season" because of Florida, Michigan, her "resonance" with "white, working class voters," because Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Abagail Adams came to her in a dream and told her so, or whatever.

The only way to deal with "fantasy" politics is to ignore it and move on, as Obama has done. Taking the Hill-Billy's arguments seriously only legitimizes what can't be legitimized.

Alex Epstein (not verified) says:

The popular vote tallies are bogus for many reasons.

a. You can't count popular vote because it means too many different things. Some states have disproportionately high vote counts because they allow Independents and Republicans to vote. Should states with closed primaries be "disenfranchised" compared to states with open primaries?

b. The rules are delegate count, not popular vote count. You don't win a baseball game by how many bases you ran. You don't win a football game by yards gained. You win by points scored. If the contest were about popular vote, everyone would have campaigned differently. Sen. Clinton is trying to change the rules because she's lost according to the rules. It's as simple as that.

Ben Atkinson (not verified) says:

Great article: easy to follow and impossible to argue with. But I confess, Melancholy Korean is spot on. You can not use rationality with an irrational person.

RocketScience (not verified) says:

It's incredibly refreshing to see rational, sane, non-inflammatory voices such as Melancholy Korean's. This person's reasoning I will agree is dead on.

I will say in defense of Hillary Clinton, that she has the right to campaign as long, and in the nature that she decides. HOWEVER, when her campaigning and manner in which she does it begins not to strengthen the process (as she's so fond of claiming), but to tear down the party, then this is a serious problem. I can't blame her for being reluctant on giving up on her dream. She wants this just as much as any other candidate; but her justifications are becoming embarrasing not only to her but also to the party. It's time to say enough is enough and admit that the dream will not happen, get behind the nominee and get on with the business of winning in November.

Dan Jacoby (not verified) says:

Clinton's claims to the "popular vote" lead do seem to have the ring of truthiness to them.

pilot7x7 (not verified) says:

Steve Kornacki,

Great analysis, but it misses one very critical piece that basically puts the popular vote out of reach for Clinton. The following is an excerpt from a comment I posted in response to basically the same analysis from Jonathan Alter of Newsweek (which can be found at http://www.newsweek.com/id/138109/):

"This particular piece is obvious reporting that I've despaired hasn't been done by anyone in the wake of Kentucky and Oregon, and you get kudos for it. I would constructively point out that your analysis omits something that would further fatten Obama's popular vote lead: the Texas caucus. Why is this just as important to count as the other four omitted caucuses, despite the fact that unlike them it was coupled with a primary? Because those popular votes also elected delegates to the convention, and ultimately this is a count of all votes which did just that (unlike votes in the primaries in Washington and Nebraska, both of which Obama won). But since RCP doesn't provide a Texas caucus estimate, I decided to Google this issue to see if someone has. And Slate has: http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/05/21/the-popula...
Because a more exact number can't be known until the state convention, the best estimate according to Slate's math is that the caucus increases Obama's lead by 100,000 to 200,000 votes. Your comprehensive and fair count puts Obama up about 166,000 (which now is actually around 175,000). That means Obama's true lead, even with FL and MI, is 275,000 to 375,000 votes. So with additional votes to be netted out of MT and SD, it may be the case that even with PR, Clinton won't win the popular vote. And even if she gets enough out of PR to make that claim, it doesn't change the fact that Puerto Ricans don't pay federal income taxes and cannot elect the president."

Right Thinker (not verified) says:

I must confess amusement at the cat fight going on out there in Liberal land. One one hand you have an empty suit who hopes for change....the change in my pocket. On the other hand you have a serial liar and criminal with unbridled powerlust. She stoops to conquer or a community organizer for prez.

Keep it up Rush. Operation Chaos rocks!

Ratt (not verified) says:

This is getting real good, break down that math anyway you want. The real point missing here is the fact that those pee-od Hillary Supporters will either not vote or they will cross-over to McCain.

Now, there's your reality. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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ZenGirl (not verified) says:

To say Clinton is irrational is much too kind. Dishonest is a more accurate description. And truthiness?! Why is it that Ms. Clinton worries so about disenfranchising Florida and Michigan voters, but doesn't give a twit about the millions of voters in caucus states? The truthiness is that she is morally bankrupt. And so is her campaign bankrupt-- and this is a person claiming she can fix our economy!?

The Pope (not verified) says:

I continue to be amazed that democrat posters must resort to including President Bush in each and every attempted explanation of democrat malfeasance and incompetence. Democrats would have to admit, by inference, that President Bush is indeed the most intelligent and resourceful president in recorded history. Otherwise, the democrat excuses involving President Bush hold no water. The fundamental problem with the democrat election methodologies is that they do not want to have their candidates elected by the voters. They want a situationally redefinable connection between elections and outcomes just as they want to situationally evaluate the application of laws and rules. As we all know, rules and laws do not apply to democrats.

Michael J. O'Malley (not verified) says:

As I have said time and time again, if that woman's lips are moving, she is telling lies.

DickeyFuller (not verified) says:

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Better check your experts on the projected PR turnout: 2.3 million!

She's projected to net 400,000 votes there, kids.

That puts her far ahead of the unqualified Obama.

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jeanguzo (not verified) says:

I doubt very much that DickeyFuller's "projected turnout" for Puerto Rico will become real. Bear in mind that PR's population (per US Census estimate in July 2007) is just under 4 million. A 2.3 million turnout would mean a 57,5% share of total population. Compare this with past turnout in:
- California: 5.1 million/ 36.4 million (pop.). Share: 14%
- New York: 1.9m/19m. Share: 10%
- Illinois: 2m/12.8m. Share: 15.6%
- West Virginia: 0.4m/1.8m. Share: 22.2%
- Kentucky: 0.7m/4m. Share: 17.5%
As you can see, a 2.3 million turnout is nearly impossible to achieve...

My birthday is August 28, and on that day, Barack Obama will become the nominee of the Democratic Party for President of these United States of America.

space alien (not verified) says:

Does anybody really want these idiots to run the country? They can't even run a primary where supposedly everybody is on their side.

Glassone (not verified) says:

Excellent analysis. The Clintons have totally redefined "political expediency." Every week, as another situation appears daunting, they "move the goalpost." It has been maddening to watch because sadly, there are some people who get their news from headlines. I am not one of them. I'm an informed, educated voter who has followed this primary season coverage (both liberal coverage and conservative coverage) intensely. An notion that I may have felt to support Senator Clinton flew out of the window months ago and at each "move of the goldpost" hardens my low opinion of her. I'm insulted by the degree to which her campaign and supporters think those of us who are intelligent are supposed to believe this crap.

She lost...plain and simple and not just because she's a woman or Senator Obama is 1/2 African - she lost because she just wasn't the one to get the prize this year. I'll bel glad when the media stops giving even moderate credence to any idea that she has a chance and her quest for the nomination officially ends.

anonymous (not verified) says:

You are absolutely wrong about the Michigan uncommitted vote. Edwards was still in the race. The other candidates who were on the ballot did not make 15% so their 7% of the total votes got put back into uncommitted. Edwards got about 40% of what Obama got in Florida (Obama 33%, Edards 14%) of the vote in Florida. The 7% to the other candiates removes 4000 of the 238,000 uncomiitted. Give Obama 60% of 232,000 votes which is 139,000 not 238,000. So that reduces his numbers by 99000 votes and Hillary is still in the lead by 68000 votes.

So

68000 votes before the caucuses begin

And before I go on pilot7x7 is absolutely nuts and ignorant at the same time. You can not count the Texas caucus votes...what a numbskull....because to vote in the caucus you had to vote in the primary first...these are the exact same voters...you can't count the same people twice....sorry for some so certain he sure is dumb...

So yes if you count the caucus states which Obama won by large margins, got lots of delegates from...but in terms of will of hte people they ae very distorted ...but there are 2 states with both primaries and caucuses. Wahington and Nebraska...Each state Obama won by over 30 points in the caucus but he only won the Washington State primary by 5 points and Nebraska by only 2 points. Each state had many more voters in the primary than the caucus. Washington state had 690000 vote in the primary compared to a guesstimate of 200000+ and nebraska had 63000 compared to 12000 in caucus. using those much more valid popular vote numbers that reduces his lead in those states by 70000 votes.

That reduces his lead from the estimates in "caucus" states to 40,000 votes. and since Clinton was ahead in the count including Florida, Michigan (including the votes given to Obama)by 68000 votes...she is therefore ahead even by this count at about 30000 votes.

Hillary is in the lead going into the last 3 primaries. and Puerto Rico should make it very clear....

whateva' (not verified) says:

in regards to the "uncommitted" votes/ delegates, those who want to count that state can't have their cake and eat it too.
the results are so flawed in the first place, and the turnout was so strongly altered by the boycott, why try and count the vote info that we have now as if edwards was in the race unless your motivation was marginalize obama in an anti democracy fashion-

besides, any way you slice it, cumulative vote is in obama's advantage. the clintons want every vote counted, eh? If that was true, just look at the math in the article above, and we see who really wins out.

derek (not verified) says:

DickeyFuller (not verified) says:

Better check your experts on the projected PR turnout: 2.3 million!

She's projected to net 400,000 votes there, kids.

That puts her far ahead of the unqualified Obama.

May 23, 2008 5:32 PM

Oopsie Dickey - actual vote total not anywhere near the 2.3M turnout - 484,000 in not quite 2.3M. But that shouldn't stop the dead-enders from claiming a victory and planting their asterisk.

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