The Local: Work Life In Long Island City
Neighborhood on eternal quest to be business district New Yorkers want to come to work in

It’s not every day that you hear New Yorkers complaining about the absence of a Starbucks or a Duane Reade, but the chains that are so often maligned in Manhattan lately are just the type of convenience that people working in Long Island City miss the most.
When Deborah, a Citigroup employee, learned that she was being transferred from Manhattan to Long Island City 10 years ago, she was less than enthusiastic about the move.
“When I first heard I thought, 'Ugh, Long Island City,' because I’d never heard about it,” said during a mid-Monday morning smoke break outside the neighborhood’s first high-rise, high-profile office building, Court Square One. “Then I realized how easy it was to get here, and now it’s O.K."
Every morning, Deborah rides the G train straight from her home in Downtown Brooklyn without switching lines; and when she’s not in a rush, takes the bus back in the evenings. Nonetheless, she admitted that “there’s not much to do” in LIC.
“We don’t have a drugstore, and I would kill for a Wendy’s or a Burger King,” she said. “The closest thing we have is a Domino's Pizza. There’s a [C-Town] grocery store, but with all the empty space around it would be nice to have a Duane Reade or a Rite-Aid.”
It has been almost two decades since Citigroup built the 1.4 million-square-foot office development Court Square One in 1989, and while some other companies have followed suit, the 48-story tower remains the tallest building in Queens—and an isolated blip on the skyline.
In 2007, Citigroup completed a separate, 15-story office tower next door, Court Square Two—as the company continues to transfer office workers to Queens—and the United Nations Federal Credit Union moved into a 220,000-square-foot office building, Court Square Place in 2006. But retailers have yet to follow, and LIC still looks more like downtown Hartford than New York’s fourth large business district.
Last week, the New York Post reported that one of the firms driving LIC’s residential boom, Rockrose Development Corp., began shopping for an anchor tenant to occupy at least half of the 42-story office tower it plans to build at 10 Court Square.
While there are clear financial incentives for developers and companies to set up shop in LIC—Class A office space there currently rents for $34 per square foot, according to the New York City Economic Development Corporation, well below Manhattan rents—employees are divided over whether any perks of working in Queens outweigh the pains. For residents of Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx, the commute to LIC is generally shorter than the trip to Manhattan, though the G train is notoriously unreliable.
The lack of retail options and boredom are the pitfalls most often cited by employees, whether they like LIC or not.
“Advocate for more eateries in the neighborhood,” urged Joel, a New Jersey native who has worked in Court Square One for seven years. “It’s gotten better compared to seven years ago when you had no choice but to eat where you worked, but food is still a big issue. People also complain about needing a Duane Reade and a Starbucks, but they’ll always complain about something.”
Though the coffee shop in the lobby of Court Square One appears to be a branch of the ubiquitous coffee chain, Joel's younger, J. Crew-catalogue-looking colleague pointed out the distinction between the “We proudly brew Starbucks” and “We proudly are a Starbucks,” namely “funny breakfast sandwiches.” Both men were dressed in khakis and button-down shirts--Joel's short-sleeved and patterned--sans tie, which seems to be the defacto uniform in LIC based on the relative absence of suits sported by the employees we spoke with.
“It’s far and it’s inconvenient,” said one particularly dissatisfied female employee who has worked in the building for 10 years and lately commutes an hour and 15 minutes from New Jersey every day. She said that the building management once did a survey on the time employees spent commuting to the office and found the average was 90 minutes each way.
“Then you get here and can’t get things done. You can’t go to the drug store, can’t pick up a birthday gift,” she said from the aforementioned coffee shop in One Court Square’s lobby.
Nearby, a strip of eateries have closed to make way for a hotel under construction, she said, so lunch choices are now limited to the cafeteria or deli at Court Square One, a Quizno’s, a Dominoes Pizza, and some local Italian eateries and ethnic food vendors. The underdeveloped retail sector in LIC means buildings must be more or less self-sufficient. (How the crop of new condo-dwellers makes do is another story.)
“I don’t know how people are buying these condos,” she said of the new residential projects nearby. “The only grocery store is a C-Town in the middle of nowhere, and the restaurants all close at night.
“Nobody likes being in this building,” she sighed resignedly, “but after 10 years it is what it is.”
Actually some people do. Almost everyone said they wished there were more restaurants, but what some characterized as “boring,” others describe as “low-key.”
“Coming here from Manhattan is a real culture shock,” said one employee puffing away in front of the newest Citigroup building with three other forty-something, heavyset men on Monday morning. “There, you walk from store to store. You have so much variety. Here, forget it, man. The cafeteria’s too pricey so we usually eat Chinese food. There’s also a Spanish place, and a lot of ethnic stuff.
“It’s interesting, but, after a while, interesting gets old.”
“The hardest part is that there are not as many pretty girls passing by,” a man from the Bronx wearing a baseball cap offered, prompting wistful sighs of agreement from his three smoking buddies.
“Parking is also too expensive,” offered another employee who has been commuting from New Jersey by car for about seven years. He pays $7 daily to park, but refused to divulge the name and location of the lot. “It’s a secret. Most people pay like $10 a day, Manhattan prices.
“But if you like peace and quiet, this place is perfect.”
Though the peace and quiet in LIC is penetrated by the near constant din of construction these days, a UNFCU employee who started working at their new building just a couple of months ago after six years in Manhattan prefers the new neighborhood. “I like it better here," he said. "The city is too congested."
Most of his colleagues who’ve recently moved over to Queens appear to feel the same way, he said, but there are a few who feel that the outer-boroughs are beneath them. “A friend of mine who works next door hates it,” he said. “She said she didn’t go through all that college to work in the ghetto.
“Sure, [LIC] could use a McDonald’s and there is too much construction going on, but I guess that’s the only way to build it up. It’s going to be the new alternative to Manhattan. Every borough is competing now, I guess.”
Commercial developers seem less convinced of LIC’s viability, but there are somewhat positive signals.
Tishman Speyer, for instance, is finally expected to break ground on a scaled-down Gotham Center in Queens Plaza—originally the developer giant planned to build 3 million square feet, but the most recent description of the project on the EDC Web site is for a 1.5 million-square-foot complex with the option of 1.5 million additional square feet in a second building phase.
E.J. Minskoff Equities' $300 million mixed-use development North 30 is scheduled to be finished in late 2009, according to theEDC, but judging by the language it doesn't sound like the commercial portion has really taken off. The site says there is "opportunity to create as much as 650,000 SF of mixed-use space at 30-30 Northern Boulevard between 40th Avenue and 40th Road."
"The opportunity to create more than 580,000 sf of mixed-use space at (24-02 43rd Avenue) in Court Square," is also available in Rockrose's planned development, according to the EDC, leaving the potential for many more office workers to make Long Island City their professional home.





















Could somebody please explain to me how it's possible for it to be 20 years, and no McDonald's or Duane Reade? How is that possible? Even the most out of the way Interstate interchange in the most sparsely populated parts of the country at least have a McDonald's?
I used to work at MetLife which is on the other side of the Citigroup buildings and Court Square. My co-workers and I used to walk to Court Square to get something to eat; this just tells you that there is nothing around where the MetLife building is. There's not even a small park with a bench where one can just sit to relax or read or something. Yes, there is a cafeteria and the building has a rooftop, but it gets really hot in the summer for there are no shades.There are only strip bars, a subway (sandwich)and a Blimpie, and fried chicken places and that's it. No McDonald's or Burger King or pharmacies. Employees would also sometimes take the subway back to 59th street during their lunch just to be out of LIC. I know a lot of [good] employees have quit because of the lack of things to do or eat at this location.
Nonetheless, about after several years, Metlife will be moving to Bryant Park, with the first move, I believe, this September. There will keep some of the staff at the current location, I guess to fulfill the lease agreement with Queens.
as soon as i saw rockrose's name on this, i knew what it was crap. the reporter should have interviewed people familiar with rockrose development corp. - owned by three millionaires (elghanayan brothers) - constantly nickel and diming new yorkers. they are classic slumlords.
As an ex-Citi employee, I occasionally visited LIC to work, to be interviewed or to play(Holiday party on the Roof). Actually, never minded the location -- good change of scenery and faces. My ex worked at Met Life in LIC but she well deserved to be there.
Long Island City, recently rezoned and currently booming with office and residential multi-story structures, was - in the not too distant past - the "most productive square mile in America". The manufacture, storage and transportation of actual goods still continues, with paper, printing and jewelry as the leading industrial uses, as does the service to the the sky rises of midtown (the UPS depot and elevator repair services). But as your story points out, blue color workers don't actually need a variety of chic eateries. With a 30 minute lunch break, you don't even need a park or a playground.
Real estate developers held the parcels in "cruise" until the Olympic Bid flopped and until the amendments to the zoning map were approved. Now the boom will change the street scape, residents will provide addtional demands for goods and services, Including schools and public open space, Once the clean up of the New Town Creek and tributaries begins and completes south western Queens will be a garden spot.
With regard to the comments about McBurgers, it was my understanding that the real estate plan for their franchises was to be within two or three blocks of a school. There are no schools at Court Square. And in New York City, just what are "mostly ethnic" eateries anyway? Thai, Chinese, Italian, Mexican and college food are all in la five block circle.
A real real estate prize is the currently under utilized Sunnyside Yards - 275 acres, only half used for parking of commuter rail cars (the west bound traffic out of Pennsylvania Station can park in Queens and travel east to pick up Jersey bound travelers). ( Once upon a time, before the Interstates, the rail yard was full. )
12 years ago, when the IDCNY boondoggle was failing, new tennants said it was hard to get a pair of shoelaces, but you could get some good specialty steel. Now the steel is gone. And at Court Square, there is a new liquor store with free weekly wine tasting. How far did your reporter actually walk?
Who wants to eat Burger King or MacDonalds? I prefer the ethnic food in the area. What's really needed, though, is some more healthy options.
There is a pretty good diner on 44th Drive & 11th Street....pretty sure that they deliver. Plus if you want McDonalds you could always take a short drive to Sunnyside.....The place is a dead zone at night though.....ARRIS buyers must be pissed...
I didn't realize artery-clogging, unhealthy fast food was a mandatory staple in all of America.
At least, it shouldn't be.
maybe the workers in the area can forgo their fast food cravings for cultural satisfaction, food for the soul, in this cutting edge mecca for the arts. Museum of modern art,P.S.1
sculpture museum, and galleries are all within lunchtime reach.
There are some alternatives but you'd have to walk to Vernon Blvd. There are a couple of decent coffee shops, Chinese takeout, and several small restaurants (Thai, French, Italian). And don't forget about the fabulous waterfront park in Hunter's Point.
We desperately need a duane Reade but you forgot to mention a great healthy place "Sage Kitchen" and 2 Irish bars!
In addition,these Citi bankers are pretty lazy, if they walk to vernon Blvd, there are 2 french restaurants, japanese, Italian, American and other places!
Wow. Are these employees blind?
Drug store = L.I.City Pharmacy, right next to the C-Town on 21st St.
Court Square Diner is obscure "ethnic" food now?
Who are these clowns who still eat McDonald's? Eff that place.
I'm sorry you went to college to work the the "ghetto". Boo-hoo. Maybe everyone will be happy when all the condos and streetscape turn this place into a "chic" "up-and-coming" "trend-setting" neighborhood.
Idiots.